問 我是一名機械工人，剛來(lai)這家公司沒(mei)幾天(tian)，還沒(mei)簽合(he)同(tong)，想(xiang)知道：集體(ti)合(he)同(tong)與勞動合(he)同(tong)有(you)哪些不同(tong)？

答 第一(yi)，簽(qian)約(yue)主體(ti)(ti)(ti)不(bu)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)。集(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)是(shi)由(you)職(zhi)(zhi)(zhi)工(gong)(gong)代表與用人(ren)單(dan)位(wei)(wei)簽(qian)訂(ding)(ding)，而勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)是(shi)由(you)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)(dong)者本(ben)(ben)人(ren)與用工(gong)(gong)單(dan)位(wei)(wei)簽(qian)訂(ding)(ding)。 第二，簽(qian)訂(ding)(ding)程(cheng)序不(bu)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)。集(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)需由(you)職(zhi)(zhi)(zhi)工(gong)(gong)代表與用人(ren)單(dan)位(wei)(wei)先行(xing)協商合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)草(cao)案，經職(zhi)(zhi)(zhi)工(gong)(gong)代表大會或(huo)者全體(ti)(ti)(ti)職(zhi)(zhi)(zhi)工(gong)(gong)討論(lun)通過；而勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)由(you)職(zhi)(zhi)(zhi)工(gong)(gong)本(ben)(ben)人(ren)與用工(gong)(gong)單(dan)位(wei)(wei)直接簽(qian)訂(ding)(ding)。 第三，生效(xiao)(xiao)條(tiao)件不(bu)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)。集(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)簽(qian)訂(ding)(ding)后應當(dang)報(bao)送(song)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)(dong)行(xing)政(zheng)部(bu)門(men)(men)，勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)(dong)行(xing)政(zheng)部(bu)門(men)(men)自收到集(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)之(zhi)日起15日內未提出異議的(de)，集(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)即行(xing)生效(xiao)(xiao)；而勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)依法訂(ding)(ding)立即具有法律約(yue)束(shu)力(li)。 第四，效(xiao)(xiao)力(li)所調整的(de)主體(ti)(ti)(ti)范圍不(bu)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)。集(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)生效(xiao)(xiao)后，對用工(gong)(gong)單(dan)位(wei)(wei)和(he)單(dan)位(wei)(wei)全體(ti)(ti)(ti)職(zhi)(zhi)(zhi)工(gong)(gong)具有約(yue)束(shu)力(li)；而勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)(tong)生效(xiao)(xiao)后僅(jin)適用于職(zhi)(zhi)(zhi)工(gong)(gong)本(ben)(ben)人(ren)和(he)用工(gong)(gong)單(dan)位(wei)(wei)。